Premium Deck Series: Slivers decklist announced

To follow up our discussion of Premium Deck Series: Slivers as it relates to EDH, let’s have a look at the newly announced decklist for the product.  First off, here’s the decklist:

2 Ancient Ziggurat
5 Forest
2 Island
3 Mountain
2 Plains
1 Rootbound Crag
2 Rupture Spire
2 Swamp
2 Terramorphic Expanse
2 Vivid Creek
2 Vivid Grove


25 lands
1 Acidic Sliver
1 Amoeboid Changeling
1 Armor Sliver
1 Barbed Sliver
1 Brood Sliver
1 Clot Sliver
1 Crystalline Sliver
1 Frenzy Sliver
1 Fungus Sliver
1 Fury Sliver
2 Gemhide Sliver
1 Heart Sliver
1 Hibernation Sliver
1 Homing Sliver
2 Metallic Sliver
1 Might Sliver
2 Muscle Sliver
1 Necrotic Sliver
1 Quick Sliver
1 Sliver Overlord
2 Spectral Sliver
1 Spined Sliver
1 Victual Sliver
2 Virulent Sliver
1 Winged Sliver


30 creatures
1 Aphetto Dredging
1 Coat of Arms
1 Distant Melody
1 Heartstone
1 Wild Pair


5 other spells

The cards I was anticipating the most were the lands.  In EDH, particularly with a 5-color general, manabases can get very espensive indeed.  A big part of the budget legitimacy of this product will be the extent to which its manabase can transition into the 100-card highlander format.

So, applying “highlander” to the manabase leaves us with one copy each of:

Ancient Ziggurat

Rootbound Crag

Rupture Spire

Terramorphic Expanse

Vivid Creek

Vivid Grove

Alas, I’m feeling highly unenthusiastic about this manabase.  The product doesn’t exactly give you no help at all, but it comes pretty dang close, offering the lone rootbound crag as the only rare land in the bunch.  Was Gemstone Mine too much to hope for?  City of Brass?  Apparently these hopes were just irrational optimism on my part.  So, for budget players, it seems challenge #1 for porting this deck to EDH will be coming up with a decent 5-color manabase.

I suggest filling out the remaining three vivid lands, along with Zendikar dual lands like akoum refuge and the Shards of Alara tri-lands such as Savage Lands.  I would also recommend going “base green” making green your main color, and using cards like harrow, kodamas reach, sakura tribe elder, rampant growth, and civic wayfinder.  Many of these green cards have variants and functional reprints, so have a look at a card database like Gatherer, or my personal favorite, magiccards.info.

So the lands are kind of a bust.  Let’s look at the slivers now.

Here is a list of rare slivers I think you might consider for inclusion, but which are not included in the set:

Essence Sliver

Psionic Sliver

Pulmonic Sliver

Sliver Legion

Sliver Queen

Synapse Sliver

Toxin Sliver

Of these, Sliver Queen is the expensive one, running around $30.  However, it’s been holding that value forever, so it’s a decent investment.  For budget players, though, Sliver Legion can be had for just under $10, Toxin Sliver for around $7, and the remaining four slivers for around $7 total.  All in all, you get brood sliver, fungus sliver, and sliver overlord as your rares / mythic rares.  Nothing really to write home about.  I will soon be advising you to consider ditching fungus sliver, for example.

One side note here about Sliver Queen: the set includes Heartstone, so if you acquire the common Basal Sliver from Time Spiral, you’ve got an infinite mana combo that, thanks to Sliver Queen, translates into infinite slivers and likely an instant win, thanks to your general’s tutor ability, and the inclusion of heart and gemhide slivers.  Essentially, Sliver Queen is likely the next big purchase you can make to easily pimp your Sliver-based EDH deck.

Moving on to the Un-Commons in the deck, the ones of note that aren’t included are as follows:

Cautery Sliver

Darkheart Sliver

Dementia Sliver*

Dormant Sliver

Frenetic Sliver*

Ghostflame Sliver

Harmonic Sliver

Horned Sliver

Mnemonic Sliver

Opaline Sliver

Root Sliver

Shifting Sliver

Telekinetic Sliver

Ward Sliver

The slivers marked with a * are questionable, but they’re still better than some of the duds (I’ll go over the duds at the end).  You can buy all of these non-asterisk’ed uncommons for around $11 total.  Horned Sliver is the most expensive at $3.45, and if you just get Ward Sliver and/or Shifting Sliver, the trample becomes less important.

Moving on to the commons, here’s the ones I’d consider playing with that are, again, NOT included in this product:

Basal Sliver (Because I will be running the Queen)

Battering Sliver(aka Poor Man’s Horned Sliver)

Crypt Sliver

Hunter Sliver

Reflex Sliver (Redundant Heart Sliver)

Shadow Sliver!!

Sinew Sliver (Redundant Muscle Sliver)

Synchronous Sliver

Talon Sliver

Two-headed Sliver

I didn’t total the cost of these commons because surely they can all be had for under $5.  Shadow Sliver is probably the most important here, but they’re all probably better than some of the duds that come with this set.  Let’s examine the duds now, shall we?

I would immediately lose all of the following cards from the product in porting to EDH:

Amoeboid Changeling

Armor Sliver

Barbed Sliver

Frenzy Sliver

Metallic Sliver

Spined Sliver

And I might consider losing these as well, though it would now depend on what I had available to replace each sliver with.   The duds above should be left out for sure.  The ones below… well, they’re at least passable:

Clot Sliver

This one just doesn’t do a whole lot, and it costs mana to (not) do it.  A whole lot of the recommended additions surpass this card.

Fungus Sliver

Unless you plan to have psionic sliver, this one probably goes… though at least he’ll grow your team in favorable blocks and such.

Spectral Sliver

Again, the best sliver abilities aren’t costing you mana.  You’ll have plenty to do with your mana without messing with this.

As for the non-sliver cards in this set, they all look decent to me, though perhaps they’re a bit gimmicky and might be better as either card draw or tutors.  As a creature based strategy, Slivers have an uphill battle in EDH.  EDH is rife with sweepers and big effects.  A lot of the time you’ll get your army out there only to watch them perish.  Some cards that will help you prevent this are:

Eldrazi Monument, Dauntless Escort, Elspeth Knight-Errant

Only the monument is very affordable here, but luckily it’s probably the best fit anyway.  I still worry about the basic concept of putting a lot of dudes on the table in a format like EDH.

Along these lines, I can see the very first sliver I search for with my overlord or other tutors being hibernation sliver.  Soon thereafter, I might try to get homing sliver, as I think patriarchs bidding and genesis will be fun ways to play with the graveyard.  When I get my own copy of this product, and I fill out my sliver deck, I’ll be posting again with a more detailed decklist and strategy explanations, so I’ll leave it there as far as deck contents… I just want to mention one cute combo you can include:

Mesmeric Sliver + Tunnel Vision

All in all, I think the deck looks fun, and they got most of the staples I was hoping for:

Winged Sliver

Hibernation Sliver

Crystalline Sliver

etc.

I’m only slightly disappointed in the manabase, but I remain stoked about the concept of this product providing a relatively easy entry into EDH for nOObs.  You buy this thing for $35, then you buy $20-$50 worth of other Schtuff, and you’ve got a fun EDH deck in your hands.  When you win the lottery, then you buy the $600 manabase of your dreams and rock the casbah!  Okay, so if you have that kind of scratch, you can just build Zur, Arcum, or Rofellos, or one of the other tier 1 generals, and pimp it out with all the trimmings.

Until next time, there can be only one!

12 thoughts on “Premium Deck Series: Slivers decklist announced”

  1. I like it, and even the foil rootbound crag is enough for me, lol (I need 1 more). If wizards wants to be nice, they’ll ensure that the T-Morphs have the flvour text, as I’m currently trying to get foils of the land with (IMHO) the best flavour text ever.

    Seriously? Ameboid Changeling?

  2. Oh wait! I didn’t realize the implication of changeling. No, I think changeling not only must stay in, but you’d want to play image crafter, mistform mutant, AND unnatural selection as well, just so you can jack your opponents’ creatures.

    My bad, thanks for the catch Zak!

  3. This deck looks awesome! I just ordered it the other day, and I was thinking of making most of the changes you were suggesting. But why would you leave virulent sliver in? poison counters=no fun

  4. I know you mentioned that you should remove Amoeboid Changeling from the set but it acually has one very powerful use. Use its ability with Sliver Overlord and you can literally steal every creature your opponent plays! Its evil enough that slivers become more wicked the more you play, but that you can use Amoeboid Changeling to make ANY target creature into a shapchanger with every creature type (including sliver) you can take any strong creature your opponent plays and use Sliver Overloard’s ability to immediately and permenently control any sliver an opponent controls (ie: the the newly changed changeling) where you can either keep it to attack/defend with, or be even more sinister and sacrfice it to fuel any abilities that require sacrifice while it still counts as a sliver (bassal sliver’s ability comes to mind).

    Added last minute thoughts on this combo that should be noted incude: Remember that Amoeboid Changeling’s ability only lasts for the round so if your gonna attack with the creature you steal do it immediately while it still benefits from being a sliver. Also, Amoeboid Changeling sadly can only change one creature at a time so to be able to truly shut down even the most swift playing decks you will need to boost how many you can steal by either adding more Amoeboid Changeling’s or adding cards that let you untap it. Both if you want to be completely sure your ready. I personally used 4 Amoeboid Changelings plus untap abilities agenst an elf deck with beautiful results.

    If its possible Id like to hear the original authors thoughts on my combo…

  5. hey Brandon, thanks for the excellent comment. I definitely agree with you re: amoeboid changeling. My teammate Zak had actually nailed me for that oversight in my article as well. I definitely run the changeling these days. Alas, as of yet I’m unable to find a sliver queen for my deck so I haven’t played as much as I was hoping just yet.

    As for the combo, I agree with its intention. More effects like the changeling are desirable. But in EDH, you are allowed only one copy of each nonbasic card. So the one changeling is in, but I can’t run 4. Other cards I’ve been using for the same effect are:

    unnatural selection – actually much better than changeling… sort of a changeling machine gun.

    mistform mutant – a slower version of the above… worse than changeling for its speed.

    imagecrafter – a faster changeling

    another cute one is “standardize”, but it’s not really effective.

    Thanks again for the feedback.

  6. About Shadow Sliver. You might not want this in EDH. That means that, yes, your opponent cannot block unless the blocking creature has shadow, but that goes the other way. If a creature has shadow, it cannot block creatures without shadow. You would be saying “go ahead and hit me with anything.” Read the text.

  7. Hi Nick,

    Thanks for the feedback. The shadow sliver is definitely all about the game state when you drop him. He’s invaluable when you have a bunch of small guys and the the poison counter sliver, for example. But yes, you’re correct about the way shadow functions. You would be unable to block, until your creature stopped being a sliver.

  8. You forgot the most important one, You can completely remove Shadow sliver, and replace it with Shifting sliver. Slivers can only be blocked by slivers. however they can still block any other creatures, I pulled shadow from my EDH deck. 1v1 is less effective, but i’ve played a ton of 4 or 5 player games, and my deck is usually unstoppable.
    The queen/basal/gemhide combo is good. But if you want a decent win situation that costs less mana. Psionic sliver + scythe of the wretched and any 1/1 sliver = win, nobody really sees it coming if you’ve already got a 1/1 sliver out and opponents are tapped its 5 mana to play psionic and 2 for scythe, I however have a few artifact search cards, including tinker. for ANYONE playing a sliver deck an Urzas Incubator is CLUUUUTCH spells cost 2 less. making it a 5 mana win condition. boo yah =)

  9. you could also put a mana echoes in or an intruder alarm with gem hide sliver and make a lot of mana so you never have to worry about it.mana echoes costs about $1 and intruder alarm costs about $3

  10. On the Amoeboid Changeling, I eventually just removed mine. There are a ton of slivers that conflict with this. If you have a ward sliver, crystalline sliver, or any sliver with a sacrifice ability, the changeling cannot fill its intended role. That being said, it can still be a good idea to include it. Just be aware that your opponent’s recently changed creature could be immune to Sliver overlord taking “TARGET SLIVER creature.” On top of that, if you have a sacrifice creature out, he could just sacrifice it before you get your hands on it. That’s really bad if you have Necrotic sliver out (bye bye overlord).

    I also prefer clot sliver over crypt sliver because of crystalline and ward, which are almost required to be in play for slivers to stay alive. Clot Sliver + Sedge Sliver is enough regen for me. I also run 2 Sinew Slivers and 2 Muscle Slivers as they’re REALLY potent.

    The mana for this deck also needs some slight tweaks. I put 5 of the recent 3 mana land cards in and an additional card of each vivid (removed duplicates). Top that off with prismatic omen and you shouldn’t have any mana problems, ever.

    I removed all of the spells, as there are better ones for cheap. Door of Destinies, alpha status, and training grounds are among my favorites. There’s really no limitation to playing a 5color deck. It’s not amazingly good, but it’s a whole lot of fun and it will keep your friends guessing on what you’ll pull out next.

  11. So my comment is certainly late to the party.

    with all the abilities to sac slivers the shadow sliver isn’t so bad. When your opponent attacks, just sac the sliver granting shadow and block. Also keep in mind that amoeboid changeling can take creature types away to let you block if you really need to.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

You may use these HTML tags and attributes: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>